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Carol from Canberra turned up on the weekend with four of her girlfriends, in town to check out fashion week. So on Saturday night I met up with them in the city for dinner and some dancing afterwards. One of Carol’s friends had had to go home early, and another guy named Terry tagged along who was a mutual friend of Andrea, one of the others.

We headed for dinner at Blackbird, a classy bar/cafe at Darling Harbour, the place to be in Sydney on a Saturday night. I sat opposite Carol, and next to her friend Jenni, who seemed like quite a live wire. Jenni was quite attractive, but seemed a little stand-offish and obtuse, so I started joking around with her and teasing her a bit, while also chatting with Carol. At one stage Jenni started complaining about running out of cigarettes, and asked “Do you know where to get cigarettes around here?”

“No, I don’t. Are you a smoker?”

“Yeah, and I’m out of cigarettes. I want to get some cigarettes!!!”, she protested

“Oh. I hate smokers.”, I countered.

Jenni was a bit taken aback at this. But the truth is that I do hate smokers. Or more specifically, I hate it when people are smoking. Carol and Jenni both looked at me awkwardly.

“What do you mean you hate smokers???”

“Well, I only hate them when they’re smoking. When you’re not smoking, you’re not a smoker”.

We joked about how none of us could be friends then, as I continued to tease them about smoking. It turned out that Carol had the occasional cigarette too; so occasional in fact, that it took her over a month to get through a pack. So I teased her about that too. One of the interesting things I’ve learned about people is that they respect you more when you have a strong point of view, than when you have a weak one. Even if that point is very different to their own, or even somewhat negative towards them! Saying I hated smokers risked alienating the girls, but when I didn’t back down just because they didn’t like that, it actually laid the foundation for greater respect.

“Gee… you obviously don’t care about what other people think of you!”, Carol remarked with obvious admiration. I took this as a huge compliment. Getting over the fear of what other people think has been a huge thing for me, and one of the most liberating things I’ve done. It’s also been a key ingredient in getting along better with women. I remarked that I’d been working hard on that, and thanked her for the compliment.

Jenni wandered off after a while with one of the other girls in search of a cigarette vending machine. While things were quiet, I chatted with Terry, the other mutual friend guy who was down the other end of the table. Terry seemed quite shy and reserved around the girls; a typical Nice Guy. It turned out that Terry was studying Civil Engineering at university. He seemed like a really lovely guy, but like a lot of engineers I know, didn’t come across as all that interesting or engaging if you weren’t into technical stuff. After we’d had a bit of a chat Carol, who knows I used to be an engineer, leaned over on the quiet and asked “Did you used to be like that once?”

“Yeah… I did”, I remarked, as I thought about how far I’ve come with my social skills and general self-confidence.

Eventually Jenni came back, empty-handed and irritable. I teased her about having nicotine withdrawal symptoms… getting the shakes and everything. Later in the evening, she launched into a tirade about how you had to wait for everything in Sydney: we had to wait for a table, they had to wait for a cab, she had to wait for her cigarettes. Jenni was starting to sound decidedly high-maintenance, and in my mind her good looks didn’t qualify as an excuse for that kind of thing… so she was in for some more teasing. Ironically, by the end of the evening, we were all waiting for Jenni to finish her drink before we could go dancing. More teasing ensued. At one point, it seemed as though Jenni was just too much like hard work even to engage in conversation. I was starting to get the vibe that either she didn’t like me, or she was just plain difficult to get on with, when she said something quite funny.

“You’re fun!”, I remarked intuitively, just like I’ve been learning to do in my acting practise exercises.

“Huh? What do you mean by that?”, she said guardedly, clearly thinking I was being sarcastic.

“I mean that you’re fun. I’m not being sarcastic.”

“Oh…”, she follows with a thinking pause.

“He’s a cool guy.”, Jenni says to Carol. Evidently I’d passed the test… without even trying. In fact, I’m learning that this is the best way to pass a woman’s test: don’t try! Jenni, on the other hand, was still looking decidedly high-maintenance, so although I thought she’d be fun to hang out with, she hadn’t passed my test. With her drink finally finished, we headed off to a nightclub.

Once in the nightclub, we all grabbed a seat in the corner and started chatting. It was the only available seat, and was awkwardly positioned in a corner right next to the dance floor. At first I felt uncomfortable being isolated from everyone else in the club; but that’s not how things ended up. While the other girls were up dancing, Carol and I chatted. It turned out that she was an ex-motorcycle-rider, having had 3 bikes. She gave it up after writing off her third one. Interesting story. I’d also had a motorbike, so we had a common interest to chat about. She’d made a remark over dinner indicating that she wouldn’t mind me making a move on her. So when the others were up dancing, I put my arm around her and went in for a kiss. I’m not the kind to kiss and tell, but that wasn’t the end of our evening together. Suffice to say that we both had a very enjoyable time together, and I consider this another successful feel-good evening all round.

One of my new year’s resolutions was to finally overcome my fear of approaching and interacting with women that I’m really attracted to. I’d already created myself an attractive and interesting life, but how are women supposed to get to know about all  that if I’m too afraid to approach them, because I’ve never learned how to do it?

I recently went along to an attraction seminar run by street pick-up expert Alex Coulson, and decided it was time to get a dating coach by signing up to one of Alex’s dating workshop bootcamps. On these bootcamps an experienced pick-up coach takes a small group out into nightclubs and teaches you how to approach and interact with women.

I’ve never been a nightclub kinda guy. That whole scene was frowned upon in my conservative upbringing, and since I never really got into going “clubbing”, I never became comfortable in that environment. Add loud noise which makes conversation difficult, and my awkwardness about approaching and meeting people, and the whole nightclub experience was just unpleasant for me. But clearly for other people comfortable in that environment, it looks like a lot of fun. So I’m keen to learn the approach skills I need so that I can enjoy it too.

Although the bootcamp isn’t for a few weeks yet, my coach has already given me plenty of “homework” to do in order to prepare for it. Every couple of weeks we have  a coaching call where he gives me my next assignment. My first assignment was to go out into some clubs, have a look at the sort of people who went there and decide which clubs had the women who I thought seemed most interesting and attractive. Even just going to the clubs to get myself familiar with an unfamiliar environment was part of the idea. I felt pretty awkward at first, but slowly got comfortable wandering around different clubs, sussing them out.

The next assignment was to start making approaches to women, using a simple conversation opener to start a conversation with the aim of talking for at least 90 seconds. First time I went out to do this I was so nervous, I nearly chickened out at the door of the nightclub thinking “I just want to go home!”. But I also really wanted to get this fear handled. So in I went. I was pretty rough at first, and about 50% of the women I went to speak to were prepared to talk to me. Going alone was also really hard work; I quickly learned the value of having a wing-man. There’s something psychological about having some support nearby, so I don’t feel like a loner when an approach goes badly. Another important thing is to have low expectations of myself: simply to make and approach and start a conversation as my measure of “success”.

The next night I went out, I hooked up with one of the other guys from the workshop so I had a wing-man. Funnily enough, he was more nervous about making approaches than I was, so I ended up making all the ones that he declined.

I went out again last night with one of the guys from my men’s group. We checked out a few nightclubs, but he’s a bit older than me and we don’t seem to be aiming for the same demographic. Rather than making approaches, we wandered from club to club, which made me a bit restless. About 1am we decided to head home, and ended up having a conversation with a really lovely (and very attractive!) woman at the ticket machine in the parking station. After driving back home we had a conversation about the importance of remembering our successes, and spending less time beating ourselves up about our failures. We could choose to focus on the positive interaction with the women at the car park, or on the missed opportunities in the nightclubs. Focusing on the positives will always make you feel better, and good vibes lead to more good vibes. We just have to undo the societal and childhood conditioning that leads us to focus on fear, doubt, uncertainty and failure too much of the time.

Tonight I’m going out again with another guy who has also joined up for the bootcamp. I’m looking forward to it; he seems like a decent guy, and I know he’s as committed as I am to getting this approach thing handled, because he’s forked out his cash. A lot of other guys I’ve been “winging” with haven’t had that level of commitment, and it shows. If you want to be successful at anything, you need to have commitment. I’ll let you know how things go. I’m also going to start celebrating more of my successes on this blog; I think it’s key to developing the positive mindset you need to become successful.

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